Transcription of Vision #11
Male: You are listening to the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast. Recorded at the studios of Maine Magazine, in Portland, Maine, and broadcast on 1310 AM Portland. Streaming live each week at 11 a.m. On wlobradio.com, and available via podcast on doctorlisa.org. Thank you for joining us. Here are some highlights from this week’s program
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Dr. Lisa: Hello, this is Dr. Lisa Belisle and welcome to the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast for our November 27th, 2011. This is our 11th show, and our theme is Vision. The important thing about vision is being able to see things from many different angles. Often we’re only able to see what lies directly in front of us.
We miss the things that are perhaps to the side of us or even behind us if we can be like an owl and maybe turn our heads all the way around and see everything at once, or maybe just little bits and pieces, one piece at a time. It dramatically improves our ability to be well and healthy in the world.
Today we’re going to pull together some visual themes, as we bring on three very special guest, we’ll start with Dr. John Herzog who is an ortopedic and osteopathic specialist. We’ll then go on to speak with Will Winkelman an architect recently profile in the Maine Home and Design Magazine.
We’ll finish up with our Give Back segment featuring Dr. Steven Goldstein of Casco Bay Eyecare. We hope you enjoy this show, on Vision and we hope it will you improve your own vision in the world. Thank you for joining us. Each week on the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast, I’m joined by my co-host Genevieve Morgan as we deep dish on subjects like locally grown foods and things that are healthy in our lives.
Genevieve: I’m excited about this segment today, Lisa.
Dr. Lisa: Do you think perhaps you’re excited because I have some food next to me?
Genevieve: I am, because I’m starving but I’m also, I’m getting to that age where my … I’ve been told that my vision is going to change that I might becoming nearsighted so I want to learn what I can eat to prolong that habitability.
Dr. Lisa: All right, with that semi-depressing thought, let’s go on and talk a little bit about …
Genevieve: … That’s depressing, it happens to all of us.
Dr. Lisa: I know it’s true, I’m not trying to make you feel bad. Somebody the other day told me I was middle aged and I was like, “I am not done with being young yet, and I actually think that if you eat the right food, and you don’t have to be done with being young and in fact studies have shown this.
Genevieve: I think you’re right.
Dr. Lisa: We kind of referred to this in a segment, I’m not sure, a few shows back. We talked about macular degeneration and the importance of beta-carotene.
Genevieve: Can you explain the term macular degeneration? It’s one of those terms we hear all the time. I’m not sure if we really understand what it is.
Dr. Lisa: Well you have to first think about the structure of the eye, and most of us are familiar with the iris, the color part of the eye, and then the pupil which is sort of a hole in the eye, and there’s a lens over it. The retina is a part that is in the back of the eye that kind of captures the images, and the macula is right in the middle of that. It’s part of your visual field.
What happens when people age, is this macula, this part at the back of their eye, it starts to break down, it’s a disease of aging. What we know is that people who are exposed to harsh light overtime, maybe they don’t wear their sunglasses, or they don’t eat the right foods.
They actually are more prone to having this aging of the back of their eye.
Genevieve: Really diet plays that much of a role?
Dr. Lisa: Diet does play a role, and there is a recent study that came out to talk about as we were just saying beta-carotene and specifically the relatives of the beta-carotene which are lutein and zeaxanthin which protects the eye from free radical attack. When we talk about free radicals these are sort of, these are the scavengers of the body.
They kind of clean things up around the body. Once you’ve been, once your body has kind of sort of cleaning itself up, and you have these free radicals roaming about, then they’re kind of damaging, they’re damaging to your eye, they’re damaging to other parts of your body. Beta-carotene …
Genevieve: … We wrote about that, we talk about that in the … About skin care too. It can degenerate your skin as well, as your eye.
Dr. Lisa: Yes, that’s absolutely true. What we have today from Whole Foods is actually a carrot. We talked about the carotenoids and that’s one of these beta-carotenes and in facts Whole Food still has locally grown carrots over there. I was over at Whole Foods this morning, we have some locally grown carrots. These … These carrots are actually very healthy looking.
They’re kind of, they don’t have the long skinny tails to them. I would use these carrots, I talk about slaw a lot in my cooking classes and on my website. I make a lot of nondairy slaw. A slaw is just a salad, what I will do is I will take some cabbage, I will take some carrots.
Shred these up in the food processor, or sort of a course shred and then throw them in usually some vinegar some lemon, little bit of sweet, maybe some honey, maybe some sautéed shallots, and we come up with a slaw. If you let that kind of marry the flavors for a little while, it’s quite delicious.
Genevieve: Sounds like a good side dish or condiment crunchy.
Dr. Lisa: It is, and if you add in … I like to throw in a few raisins maybe some sunflower seeds, or some toasted nuts and it’s a good way to get not only the beta-carotene into your diet, but it’s also a good way to get fiber into your diet.
Genevieve: Good way to get kids eat cabbage too.
Dr. Lisa: Yeah, and I tend to make my slaw kind of based on my audience, I will bring my slaw to family gatherings, and if I notice there’s going to be a lot of kids, I’ll make it a little bit sweeter, a little bit more sort of touch of honey and the resins, and if I know I’m going to be getting more adults, then I’ll do more.
I can actually make kind of a spicier slaw, you can add in some pepper and you can do a little bit more with the pungent foods. The difference between the type of slaw that I do and your traditional coleslaw is that I don’t tend to use any dairy in my preparations. This is a really good way to get this, to get those carrots into your diet.
The cabbage we’ve talked about cruciferous vegetables all over again, we like these cruciferous vegetables they’re good for your heart, good for your preventing cancer, all sorts of good things.
Genevieve: Nature’s vitamin store, those cruciferous vegetables.
Dr. Lisa: Yes, and the carrot thing is interesting too. A lot of people, you go into the grocery store and you look at these things called baby carrots.
Genevieve: The one that are package in cellophane.
Dr. Lisa: It’s a great gimmick, but chances are what your eating is not really a baby carrot, chances are it’s little carrot pieces that are taken out of a bigger carrot and not a lot of people realize when they’re getting a bag of baby carrots, all they’re getting is just slightly easier to eat portions of carrots which is fine, if that’s what you want for your children or whatever.
You could very easily just peel a carrot, and make it into carrot sticks which I want to …
Genevieve: As we’ve talked to before, one of our big things on the show is the least … The less you process a food, the better it is for your system. It seems like those carrots are just protruded through a machine.
Dr. Lisa: They are, that’s why they’re also little and cute. Again it’s fine, if that is very convenient and I know they sometimes come in packages with some a little bit of ranch dressing, and if that’s the only way you can get your kids to eat carrots then please feel free to do that.
Otherwise though, it’s probably not entirely worth the cost. The other way, you can get carrots into people, specifically children’s diet would be carrot bread, or carrot cake, there are different recipes that are out there that don’t require the amount of sugar that traditional carrot cake recipes, or carrot bread recipes require.
You can use a little bit of pineapple, little bit of pineapple juice, look for the natural sweeteners when you’re creating your carrot cake or carrot bread.
Genevieve: I have one question about carrots. Do you always have to peel the skin or can you just wash the skin. Sometimes that’s the big hurdle for me, I don’t want to sit and peel a bunch of carrots.
Dr. Lisa: That’s actually a really good question, I think it depends on if you know where you get your carrots from. We talked about the dirty dozen and the environmental working group, and the pesticide laiden foods, and if you are buying locally grown organic produce, and you know that the farm is in a, sort of a not right next to the highway, safe soil that sort of thing, and you can get away with just taking a nice strong vegetable scrubber and scrub those carrots, and you don’t have to peel them.
Genevieve: Great, great.
Dr. Lisa: The other thing that you can do is teach your children how to peel carrots, if you are looking to have to meet them. I know that my daughter Sophie, she’s 10 and she requires the peel be off. I say that’s fine, take your carrot, take your cucumber and peel away.
Genevieve: Funny how we forget to do that. Such a simple thing for them to learn …
Dr. Lisa: I know 10 year old, really they have … Actually even younger they can help out around the house. One thing that I thought I would do this week with regard to the foods that we’re talking about is to bring in a few different resources. I mean so we’ve talked about the fact that vision is helped by eating these beta-carotene rich foods including carrots and also leafy green vegetables are rich in these sorts of nutrients.
What I will often do is I will go to a place like Whole Foods and I will look for something that’s locally grown, look for something that’s organic, not necessarily with a recipe in mind, especially or if I’m going to say at Farmers market or if I’m going to a farm stand, and I’m trying to get something that’s seasonal.
I wouldn’t necessarily have a recipe in mind, but then when I get at home I say, “Okay, what am I going to do with this,” I brought a few resources in today, and these are some of my favorites actually for cooking vegetables, one of them is Eating Well Magazine, which …
Genevieve: I’m familiar with that, that’s a great magazine.
Dr. Lisa: It is a great magazine, and what I like about Eating Well is that, it’s … Well first of all I think it’s based out on Vermont. It’s they have, healthy recipe’s that don’t have a lot of artificial sweeteners in them, artificial colorants.
Genevieve: They’re pretty easy for the novice cook.
Dr. Lisa: They are, they are. One thing that I stay away from when I’m choosing a magazine that is sort of about healthy eating is I stay away from the diet based magazines, because some of them will say add in two packets of sweet and low, or they’ll say add in some sort of artificial something. Because they’re trying to make something taste like the real thing.
Genevieve: Right chocolate pudding, lite chocolate pudding.
Dr. Lisa: Right exactly. There’s just … It doesn’t it’s not really worth it and Eating Well does a very nice job with that, and they actually have a website that you can go to as well. Eating Well is a magazine that I subscribe to, I suggest that my patients subscribe to it if they’re looking for tips. They’re not predominantly … They’re not just vegetarian.
They are …
They have a lot of vegetable based dishes and actually this month not to keep going forward with the Eating Well. December 2011 Eating Well actually has a profile on Goranson Farm which is here in Maine, and they make nearly grow potatoes. They’re also about locally grown. There’s a good resource for people who have the vision to look forward and make themselves good foods.
I also have another book that was given to me by my friend Meg Wolff who’s a local author and cancer survivor who has a macrobiotic diet, this is called “Greens Glorious Greens, We’ve spoke about eating greens on a past show. I think do you remember when we talk about …
Genevieve: We’ve talked about Kale, we’ve talked about a number of leafy greens, spinach I think …
Dr. Lisa: … Arugula.
Genevieve: Arugula yes, for breast cancer. Yes, we have talked about green. Mostly people think about eating green is part of a salad. It looks as if, it looks of that book, that there’s many different ways you can eat greens.
Dr. Lisa: Yeah, this is by Johnna Albi & Catherine Walthers. There’s more than a 140 different ways to prepare your greens. Greens are so great for you, in fact I ate Kale this morning, before … For my breakfast.
Genevieve: raw, cooked?
Dr. Lisa: I sautéed, I put a little olive oil in the pan, and I have some pre-wash Kale that I just had strip from my little stems and I just put it in there with a little bit of salt, put the cover on, with a little bit of water, put the cover on, sort of let it wilt down a little bit, took the cover off, and then just sautéed it around and yeah so cook. Raw Kale I just don’t know …
Genevieve: I was going to say, that’s pretty gnarly.
Dr. Lisa: Yeah, right. Greens Glorious Greens is another resource for you, if you want to be eating healthy, if you want to have the vision to be looking forward and putting healthy things into your diet. Finally the another cook book that I use all the time, and it’s enormous, and it’s a little bit more pricey, but I think it’s very much worth it.
Sometimes vegetarian cook books are a little bland. This one is not, it’s great, it’s by Mark Bittman and he also wrote How to Cook Everything. This is How to Cook Everything Vegetarian. I love this one, there are soups, there are sauces, there are greens, there’s carrot recipe’s.
People who are looking for ways to cook healthy foods, these are the resources that we would recommend.
Genevieve: Well you and I have talked about this privately that I was a vegetarian for 10 years and the thing that got me was I just got … I just didn’t know how to cook. I got tired of my own cooking. I mean I was just tending to eat grilled cheese sandwiches.
Dr. Lisa: That is very common, that people who go vegetarian especially if they’re not vegan, they will end up eating a lot of pasta, bread, and cheese. That just ends up with a very kind of bland diet, and it’s not necessarily all that good for you, it’s kind of you’re swapping out it’s great you’re not eating meat, but what are you substituting?
Genevieve: Exactly, exactly.
Dr. Lisa: This is why I have these resources because when I have patients come in, they will say, “Well that’s great you want me to eat kale, but how do I eat it? I say here’s some resources. I can also refer them to our website doctorlisa.org, our blog has recipes on it. We teach cooking in the Dragon’s Way Class.
I mean there are any number of ways that you can begin cooking healthy foods.
Genevieve: I think it’s important to mention to … Something else that we’ve talked about at length, which is being vegetarian you can’t … You don’t have to necessarily go 100% vegetarian but you can start to look at meat differently, as more of the condiment and less of the Maine Staple.
I was raised partially by an Australian stepmother, and we always had meat, potatoes, and salad.
Dr. Lisa: Yes.
Genevieve: I’ve learned through the wellness step to focus more on the vegetables and less on the meat.
Dr. Lisa: Yes, and that’s I think it’s an important thing to consider. Some people would do meatless Mondays, or meatless Fridays, and it will just decrease their meat eating by a certain percentage and that is a great place to start. Adding more beta-carotene rich foods into your diet, learning how to cook the vegetables that you have and maybe cutting down on the meat.
If you are a meat eater and you just can’t give up all at once, these are all things that you can do, as part of your vision for your healthy self.
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Dr. Lisa: This week on the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast, we begin what we started very recently, our new wellness innovation segment in which we discussed things that have recently in the news, or events that are coming up that we think might be of interest to our listeners. We learn recently in a Science Daily piece, that there is a study out, showing that your skin cells actually detect ultra-violet light using photo sensitive receptors that were previously fought to exist only in the eye.
It’s a fairly appropriate thing, given our topic of today. The interesting thing is that your skin cells actually are able to detect the sun’s rays, and the UV rays more quickly and they are able to sort of rush in and protect you in a way that was previously not known about. If you want more information about this, go to the journal of current biology and read more on the study.
We look forward to more wellness innovation in the future. This week’s featured guest on the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast is Dr. John Herzog. Thank you for coming in Dr. John.
Dr. John: Thank you very much for inviting me.
Dr. Lisa: Let me tell people a little bit about you. You are a third generation osteopathic orthopedic surgeon. Your main focus is educating patients on the importance of healthy diet exercise and clean air. At your practice, orthopedic specialist you offer an array of conservative options including PRP which is …
Dr. John: Platelet Rich Plasma.
Dr. Lisa: Thank you, I was going to reread that, but thank you for helping me. Osteopathic manipulation, ultrasound guided injections and the evaluations of musculoskeletal injuries. This is good stuff.
Dr. John: Thank you, that’s exactly what I do.
Dr. Lisa: Yes, and Genevieve Morgan is sitting next to me, my co-host.
Genevieve: Hi, Dr. John.
Dr. John: Hi.
Genevieve: I love it that I got Dr. John and Dr. Lisa next to me.
Dr. Lisa: Does it make you feel safe, and well and happy.
Genevieve: Very well taken care off, yes.
Dr. Lisa: Good. Well this show is about vision and even though you’re not an eye doctor, we actually have an eye doctor going to come on soon. We thought you are pretty appropriate because I’m reading third generation Osteopathic orthopedic surgeon. You also do this PRP, you’re kind of reaching back to the …what we’ve done in medicine, and what we’ve done well. You’re also reaching forward into technologies that are starting to come into play. This is why I thought you’d be an appropriate person for this segment.
Dr. John: Thank you very much, I think you’re right on with that.
Dr. Lisa: You agree that you’re the good person for this segment?
Dr. John: Yes exactly.
Dr. Lisa: Modesty, we like that. Yes. Tell us what osteopathic manipulation is.
Dr. John: Well essentially it’s the original holistic medicine where you look at the whole patient, and not just the sprained ankle. Everything is connected. An osteopath would see that you’re limping a little bit and try to help you out with your lymph and that will internally help you with your back and your neck and maybe free up some headaches.
Osteopathy has been in my family for generations and I’m very fortunate and that it goes back to common sense and not the use of lots of drugs, and surgery, well I’m orthopedic surgeon of course you do need surgery when you get hit by the bus. Looking at alternatives with vision that are less invasive is pretty much an Osteopathic way to go.
Just like you mention diet, exercise, and clean air.
That’s the foundation of osteopathic medicine, and actually for any kind of medicine I believe.
Dr. Lisa: It is a little unusual, somebody who’s gone into surgery, and I have a sister who’s an orthopedic surgeon it’s a little unusual that you’ve had such a focus on plant-based eating primarily or just healthy. Is that true, am I odd on this one.
Dr. John: Yes. It is a bit odd I would say, but I came upon it, after being an unhealthy person for about 45 years and then I looked into the research and read a book called the China Study by Colin Campbell. You’ve all heard of that.
Genevieve: Yes, I read it.
Dr. John: It’s about plant …
Dr. Lisa: I have too …
Dr. John: It’s plant based eating. I have several medical problems with my own, I had several surgeries and I was quite depressed, and a bit chubby and after reading the book, and changed my diet, my whole being changed, I mean I just had less pain, I had more energy, less depression, get up and go and I just ran with it, and I’ve been on fire ever since. That’s been about 7 years now.
Dr. Lisa: I should mention to people that when you do something you do it in a big way. What you are known in this area for being the plant based diet orthopedic surgeon. You bought, you not only read the book by T. Colin Campbell. You brought the guy to Portland Maine, and he’s nationally if not internationally known. He actually came on your watch.
Dr. John: Yes, I’m very proud and we become good friends and we see each other quite often. He’s actually a patient of mine.
Dr. Lisa: Well that is even more telling that somebody who is kind of known to be … I don’t know if you are allowed to say that, from a HIPPA standpoint We’ll let you get away with it, our listeners won’t tell. You also brought with you, and one of the things that we talked about a few weeks ago, is the fact that you become a sponsor of our show, and we talked about plant based eating a lot.
You brought with us something that we’ve talked about before. What did you bring today?
Dr. John: I brought a breakfast cereal that I’ve got a catchy name that I’ve trademark I call it Brainola. The reason I call it Brainola because it’s full of healthy brain alpha 3 omega acids. It’s got all the fiber and all the sugars and complex carbohydrates and fats that you will need. It feed your mind, not your behind. That’s a little saying I have on it.
Dr. Lisa: Yes we’ve read that actually a couple of weeks ago.
Genevieve: We like that part.
Dr. Lisa: We did like the not the behind part, we’re glad to hear that the Brainola is actually good for your brain and not made of brains.
Dr. John: It’s true.
Dr. Lisa: We do amuse ourselves sometimes here, on this show. That’s because we espoused plant-based eating and we’re just like you, we’re all about to get up and go and enjoy that’s associated with eating things that are really closed to the earth.
Dr. John: If you eat well, you feel well.
Genevieve: I also think it’s interesting that the two of you were sitting here and if we bring this idea of vision, to how you both studied medicine. You both had a traditional perspective, and then you used your peripheral vision if you want to call it that. To go outside that very traditional narrow focus to bring in all this other aspects of healthcare. I am wondering Dr. John how you see that impacting the future of healthcare particularly in our state.
Dr. John: Well our state is just a reflection of the rest of the country, and the way the world’s becoming as a … Just an acceptance that we need to have more and more medical care and we need more drugs and we need more vaccinations and we need all kind of things. We think but the fact of the matter is we’re not taking care of ourselves.
That would just be exercising, and having a good diet that’s where we start, that’s the basis.
Genevieve: That’s something you can espouse Lisa
Dr. Lisa: Yes, I’m in complete agreement with that, yes.
Dr. John: Seeing the vision, as a visionary in health acre I hope to think I am along with Lisa. If we don’t change soon, it’s game over. We have one third of our population that’s morbidly obese, one third of us are just heavy and then a third of our children are getting diabetes. It’s not sustainable we’re throwing all this research, and new pills and drugs into a huge vat that’s not helping anybody.
If we just learn to go back to basics like basics, like Osteopathy, diet, exercise and clean air. I think we can save as a lot of money, who cares about the money, the suffering that we need to take care off.
Dr. Lisa: That’s an important point because I don’t know how many patients I have referred to an orthopedic surgeon and they come back to me with a total hip replacement, total knee replacement, but they haven’t lost weight. Then they’re back having surgery again, not too long after the first surgery.
That’s … I find that somewhat distressing, did you find that in your practice when you were doing surgery.
Dr. John: Certainly one third of my patient, actually in orthopedic practice probably be half of your populous is overweight and out of shape and that’s why their bones are wearing out, or joints are wearing out. I mean you can coach somebody and try to be compassionate and explain things.
There’s only so many hours in a day, I find myself out of the surgical theatre now in doing more coaching and hoping actually using this station as a conduit to get out there, and get the word out to more and more people that taking care of yourself is the best health policy. Through a little education.
Dr. Lisa: Well and it seems to be that a lot of the doctor I speak with, they are happier too when they are providing more care like the two of you do. They’re not interested in just pushing that. They really want to do more of the work that both of you guys are doing. It’s just, it’s hard to stem the tide of 200 years of traditional medicine.
It’s now traditional almost seems like it’s the wrong word, Western Medicine I should say.
Dr. John: It’s funny I use traditional because it was their tradition back when osteopathy was started. If you had the flu or a bad pneumonia. The doctor would come riding up to your house, on his horse and buggy with his little black bag. He’d come into your house, and put a plaster of mustard or mercury on your chest, that was a standard of care.
My saying is that, he should have brought a shovel with him, because it would hasten in your demise. For some reason or another we’re intrigue with potions and tinctures and all kinds of things that supposedly you’re going to make this feel good. It’s the furthest thing from the truth.
Dr. Lisa: I think this mercury analogy is interesting because now we know the mercury is a poison, and yet we use it a lot way back when, and these days we’re using a lot of medications that are … They have so many side effects and they can ultimately end up poisoning people that they don’t what we’re hoping that they will do. They make people worst.
Dr. John: I agree 100%. I mean one drug we give is to counteract another drug we give that was given because the person wasn’t doing their homework. I think a lot of times, I boldly state that 85% of all drugs ordered are absolutely unnecessary.
Dr. Lisa: Well that is a bold assertion because there aren’t very many physicians who want to stand up and say we prescribe too many medications especially physicians who would practice within the standard medical community. Have you gotten push back for your views?
Dr. John: Yeah, I get push back from patients because they think, I need to have some pain pills or I need something because I’m depressed. Now I need two pills because I’m depressed, I think that’s depressing. I say listen “We got to start at the bottom here, and work our way up and try to stay away from drugs.
If you’re on drugs, you get wind off the drugs, and hey I’m not a lunatic, I mean you need antibiotics. When you have a bad infection and I really think that polio vaccine was a good idea. I’ll go against the swine flu thing that kind of gets fabricated every year, and the radio stations are scaring everybody, “You’re going to get swine flu, and you’re going to have this, you better get it at your local store et cetera.
I think that’s getting pushed more than healthy alternatives.
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Genevieve: I think what the two of you are saying and what I know Lisa practices is that the body has an innate healing ability, and an innate wisdom that we are sometimes out of touch with because of the way we’ve been raised in our culture is that true?
Dr. John: That’s very true, I mean if you believe in media, I mean you need to pop this, and that and the other thing and there’s a pill that stops you from doing too much or something and not doing enough for something and it’s just normal that people want to have a quick solution and an easy fix.
Just through education I think we can change that whole concept around.
Dr. Lisa: I also think that what I see, because the question it feels like it’s kind of the both of us. Is that there are medications that we’re developed to be used short term, say an anti-depressant or an anti-anxiety medication. Kind of like an antibiotic, somebody really needs it, they need it short term, and they get through whatever life transition it is.
If it something they can’t do without medication but then they’re supposed to come off, and I think unfortunately people do end up on long term medications that were never intended for that purpose.
Dr. John: I think what happen is you start getting the side effects that any drug is really giving you a side effect. It doesn’t affect you positively or negatively, it does make you feel different. If you understand that your own human bio custom compounding pharmacy can be turned on high, up to 600% higher, just by eating good food and exercising 20 minutes, five days a week.
When you exercise your pain killers and your anti-inflammatories in your blood system go up by 600%, and you don’t really feel that you need to have these other things. Your muscles feel better, your bones feel better, you feel more vitality, and it’s just so simple. It blows my mind that everybody isn’t into this.
Dr. Lisa: It’s so simple. It’s difficult though. I mean I practice this myself, I dope, I have my patient practice this sort of thing, and I talk to them about all the time. There are some barriers, would you agree?
Dr. John: For sure.
Dr. Lisa: What are they?
Dr. John: The barriers are the you feel so bad you don’t want to do anything. You got the clicker, and you just change the channel and sit there and have another bowl of whatever. Laziness is a huge barrier I think, and people that are have been dealt some bad luck. They’ve got an arthritic ankle or knee they did break a foot when they were teenager and now they’re paying the price.
To understand that the worst thing you could do, would be to gain 50 pounds and start eating a bunch of butter and cheese, probably has to be more reinforced. That would just be changing your diet around, maybe reading that book called the China Study and starting to do what exercise you can, I mean if you got a real bad hip.
Let’s say you can’t go jogging, but you can float around in a pool or you can get on a recumbent bicycle or even a light resisted weight training with a little thing you put on your chair, with the pedals. You’ve seen those on TV?
Dr. Lisa: Yes, as advertise on TV late night, yes right.
Dr. John: I think that’s a good idea.
Dr. Lisa: It’s starting where you is what you were saying.
Dr. John: Exactly you can’t go run the marathon, until you do your training.
Dr. Lisa: Do you think that this is actually, one of the problems that we’re dealing with in this country, is that we have to always run the marathon before we actually learn to walk, that we have to do the big things before we actually take the steps to get to those big things.
Dr. John: I think that’s certainly a problem that could easily be counteracted with common sense. Go try to run around the block if you haven’t done that for a while, you’re going to be really sore.
Dr. Lisa: How can people find out more about your practice?
Dr. John: They can go to my website, orthocareme.com
Dr. Lisa: They can learn more about this PRP which is Platelet Rich Plasma, and they can learn about ultrasound guided injections and all the variety of things that you offer in your practice.
Dr. John: That’d be great, and I’m taking the time to really have some educational videos put on my website, which explain about cortisone inflammation diet, exercise and this thing called PRP which is essentially putting your own blood cells back into an area that’s inflamed. It’s not healing like a tennis elbow and plantar fasciitis. It’s best to kind of look at that I think, and we won’t take up this whole show talking about my PRP commercial.
Dr. Lisa: Right, but there’s information on your website, we’ll send people there and we will also link to it off of our website, and people who are on Facebook who are likers of the Dr. Lisa page they can find you that way. We really appreciate you’re coming in, you are a visionary and of course being a supporter of the show.
We know that you’re a visionary, that’s just backs that right up.
Dr. John: I’m a risk taker.
Dr. Lisa: You are, but it’s calculated and it’s going to be well worth it. We appreciate you joining us.
Genevieve: We’re truly grateful.
Dr. Lisa: We’re very grateful. It’s good to have you here.
Dr. John: I am very pleased and I hope to be here again, thank you.
Dr. Lisa: Each week on the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast. We feature a segment we call Maine Magazine Minutes, which is hosted by our longtime co-host Genevieve Morgan.
Genevieve: Thanks Lisa. Today in the studio we have Will Winkelman who is an architect and has been practicing for 29 years. He’d been registered in the state of Maine since 1989. I also read that you built a house by hand on an island which I want to get into later, because that’s … As we all know that’s a lot of work, but to do it on an island is even more work.
You established Winkelman architecture in Portland in 2007. Your professional work has evolved over the years from a mix of commercial and residential to a practice focused solely on residential work. I’m interested that you have a long standing passion for handwork that you’re always making things.
How did your experience building your own house?
Will: It totally changed my perception on what I do. I started my career doing hospitals and commercial work and when I started working just residential it became personal and much more meaningful. You’re dealing with people’s dream and sounds kind of corny but it’s … It really kind of touches you and it really gives a good purpose.
Then taking on a construction of my own house, exceedingly naïve about what it would take. I’m special, I can make it happen in a year, where it actually it took 7.
Genevieve: 7 years.
Will: Yeah, a lot of, “It will be more one more year honey, and then we’ll have it done.” It was fantastic education, because it cost … Taught what a quarter inch means, and how to plumb square wall when you’re framing. We bought tools that didn’t have paid labor, money for labor. Had friends kind of pile in and help.
It was fantastic education and it really informed. I have my own links, and you learn and you learn and you learn. I’m on an ocean front setting. Wind driven rain, we need to build boats, by enlarge. In building our own house it kind of made my own bed and had to sleep in it in terms of a complicated form challenging to make.
Genevieve: How have you translated that experience to dealing with clients, and how they interact with space?
Will: Well every … The nice thing about being a residential architect, is that you learn from your own experiences, we all live in homes by and large. We learn from our own experiences what works, and what doesn’t. What is socially kind of clicks and what gives private away spaces. Everyone’s different in terms of what they’re looking for.
It’s really good base to then start working with the client, and be able to understand really what they’re talking about. We all go back to our personal references. Having crafted our own home that was view driven and relating to the outside and trying to work with daylight. The first thing I see are the flaws that were built in, so we’re learning things right?
One of my big educators, in during my own house was learning the power of daylighting, and it always kind of talked about and you always kind of do some big windows to the South and stuff.
Genevieve: What is one of the first thing you notice when you walk into a space that you like. You don’t know why you’re liking it, but often it has to do the light.
Will: Yeah, exactly. A lot of times it’s just an intuitive thing, you can’t articulate what it is but it’s a wash of light.
Male: We’ll return to our interview after acknowledging the following generous sponsor. Dr. John Herzog of Orthopedic Specialists in Falmouth Maine. Maker of Dr. John’s Brainola cereal. Find them on the web, at orthopedicsspecialistme.com.
Genevieve: What we’re all talking about today is Vision. Vision can be defined in many ways. You’ve been crafting a particular kind of vision for 30 years. I’m interested in two things. The first is when you walk into a space that a client wants changed, what do you see?
Will: My first take on evaluating a space is to essentially zoom out and evaluate it and plan. Because functional plan is the bottom line, the starting point for anything. When either you go and look at an existing situation, existing structure or you’re starting fresh, you’re starting new.
You have to have a plan that responds to, it’s context it’s daylighting, it’s what’s public, what’s private and then into your, internal relationships of how do they want to socially connect, how direct are they or how filtered spaces. That’s all planning. Good planning is fundamental in core to any residential work.
Then at that point, whether it’s contemporary or it’s traditional, that’s something you can layer on if you will.
Genevieve: That’s interesting for the second part of my question which is you’ve been doing this for a long time, and we live in a very traditional New England state with a lot of traditional architecture. Where have we been and where do you see us going? Either in new buildings, or revamping old buildings.
Will: It’s what I’ve been doing a residential thing for like 20 years plus, and it’s been a slow evolution of more and more interest in kind of clean, contemporary might be the right word, but you can’t over … I don’t want to overstate how much of that there is here because there isn’t that much, Maine Home has actually done a really nice job of pulling together, the pockets of that, that’s been happening and you can kind of see it and touch it and forms of community.
Kind of like how dwell has done …
Genevieve: I’ll just let our listeners know that Maine Home and Design is the sister publication to Maine Magazine which is why Will is part of Maine Magazine Minutes.
Dr. Lisa: Will, you’ve been featured in the magazine at least twice from what I understand, is that so?
Will: Yeah, I’ve had a couple of things.
Dr. Lisa: One of them maybe cover?
Will: Yeah.
Genevieve: You, go ahead.
Will: Actually one of those is a good example to talk about contemporary design and to what extent Maine has evolved that way, or traditional which is really the base of what happens here, and what gets nurtured here. What clients really want, and so it’s evolving a little bit. As a rule, Maine we start at this date, it’s geographically gorgeous.
We’re blessed with and we’re blessed with having these incredible sites that are woods and islands and coastal and lakes, and even urban settings that are really kind of special and unique. The Maine tradition of sort of forms and image really are what draw people here.
That’s part of the mystique that fits in that geography, and what I found is as an architect, in Maine you have to be fatally optimistic. Find the opportunity and the ordinary, and as a rule, I’ve been really successful with doing it. Taking someone who wants …
Frequently we’ll get a request to have something built new, that looks like it’s been there for 50 years.
Genevieve: Right, the summer cottage.
Will: If you embrace the notion and really go for it, and put your heart into pulling it off, then you layer in, you’re daylighting your manipulation space, so that it’s … You give that that special character that a box may not otherwise have. Layering of space, layering of scale of space and fenestration and daylighting.
Those are all the tools that you can kind of take something that’s traditional and make it feel special.
Genevieve: I would say, I’ve been lucky enough to visit Dr. Lisa at her offices, which are above a waterfall and there are different as you’re saying in Maine that just naturally are gorgeous. Also really impact what’s being done inside the space, and the people inside the space. How does manipulation of space impact the way people feel on a day-to-day basis?
Will: That’s a really intuitive thing. You think about if you bought a home, and it’s got a dysfunctional plan and it dark, and the side of the house that has windows that face the neighbor, and you kind of feel claustrophobic.
Genevieve: You’ll always know that they’re just gloomy.
Will: Yeah you don’t feel settled, you’re not sort of nested if you will. Different some people can leave out of their car and don’t notice, right? Whereas other people and that’s what tends to come to an architect I presume for a custom design home or whatever, they’re nesting.
To nest and settle in, there are layers to it, but it’s all about being feeling settled and comfortable. It’s interesting in terms of I talked about planning, really the way I kind of work, is once you’ve zoned out the relationship of spaces to the outdoors and the view and environment. Once you’re orienting the living space, intuitively it’s not take a box and fill it with furniture.
It’s where’s the intuitive center of gravity. Where do you want to sit, where is your view where is your light, where you kind of owning the moment. Build your furnishing around that, and then wall it, wall around it. It’s an inside out kind of a tailored.
Genevieve: That’s so interesting it’s almost like your house or your home becomes an extension of your body.
Will: I hadn’t thought of it this way. The nesting thing really does play into that. Again it’s kind of creating that environment where you just feel really safe, and wellness is sort of part of your show’s thing. It really kind of foster that. It’s all connected actually and lucky, I love what I do for my living right?
Genevieve: Our listeners out there, anyone wants to get in touch with you or your firm, how do we go about doing that?
Will: The website is everything. It’s www.winkarch.com.
Genevieve: There’s also quite a beautiful portfolio of your previous works.
Will: Yeah, it’s all in there.
Dr. Lisa: I just have to ask this, are you from Maine?
Will: Memphis, Tennessee.
Dr. Lisa: Really?
Will: I got rid of my Southern accent a long time ago.
Dr. Lisa: What has caused you to come and stay?
Will: It’s interesting, I moved here in when I was 27, I’m 53 now. I’ve been here awhile, I moved from San Francisco. I moved out to Peaks Island, the second summer I was here. I’ve been there ever since. It really keeps me here, it’s Maine is so fantastically. I always kind of believe if there’s this place called Vacationland.
It is so spectacular, people want to vacation there, why wouldn’t you want to live there year-round?
Genevieve: Exactly.
Will: I kind of found an extreme, and it’s on an island. It commutes easy enough.
Genevieve: The house is finished right?
Will: Maintenance cycle. Now there are all those learnings about building inexpensively, and maintenance cycle and boy you barely bring those forward to your practice. Lot of clients wanting their maintenance thing, and boy do I get it.
Genevieve: That’s another interesting point, maybe we’ll end on that. That art of architecture is a practice. Also maintaining and living in a home, we’re all practicing all the time.
Will: Truly, yeah, constantly learning.
Dr. Lisa: Thank you so much for coming in today. It’s been really interesting to hear this idea of health and wellness from a very different perspective.
Will: Excellent.
Genevieve: Yes, thank you Will.
Will: Yeah thanks.
Genevieve: The exceptional work of Winkelman Architecture is featured in the architecture issue of Maine Home and Design Magazine. The sister publication to Maine Magazine, and is available now at your local book store and news stand. To read more about Will Winkelman and many other innovative architects working in Maine. Subscribe to Maine Home and Design at the mainemag.com.
Dr. Lisa: Each week on the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast. We read from the book our daily thread. Which was written in honor of our late friend Henley Dunning. I’ll proceeds from this book, Benefit Your organization Safe Passage which have provides approximately 550 children with educations, social services and a chance to move beyond the poverty.
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Dr. Lisa: Each week on the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast, we have a segment called Give Back in recognition of the fact that health and wellness are not solely the property of the individual. There are about the community and the word at large, and there are organizations out there and physicians other individual out there who are doing things to help give back to the community.
Today we are honored to have such a individual, Dr. Steven Goldstein from Casco Bay Eyecare. Thank you for coming in.
Dr. Steven: You’re welcome. Thank you for having me.
Dr. Lisa: Let me read a little bit about you, because I’m impressed. You’ve been practicing optometry. Since 1983 beginning as a chief of optometry, and an optometrist in the United States Army. You begin your private practice of optometry in 1987, and this is the part that I find really most touching because I have three siblings who have also served, and served overseas.
A veteran of Desert Storm. Dr. Goldstein has also received the Army commendation medal and the Army meritorious service medal. You received your doctor of optometry degree from the New England College of Optometry after graduating from the University of Massachusetts at Amherst with a bachelor of Science.
I also love this part, you spent your free time skiing as much as possible and playing competitive tennis.
Dr. Steven: That’s correct, that was correct when I wrote it, and still correct today.
Dr. Lisa: Good I’m glad that … We like the people that come on, and actually sort of live their lives fully. The reason you’re here today is we’re talking about this Giving Back. Genevieve Morgan my co-host and I, we love having people in that talk about the things that they’re doing for the community.
Your organization Casco Bay Eyecare participates in 9 different local community based programs in which you offer free already services, including free eye exams for people who are referred through community base health clinics which is green patients based on income. There are a lot of big names in this list of people you help.
The Portland Community Free Clinic. Health Care for the Homeless, Care Partners, Positive Health Care and programs at Mercy Hospital and the Maine Medical Center. You also are part of the national screening system for free eye care run by the American Optometric Association called Vision USA.
Which enables you to see patients to the Portland Public Schools and the Catholic Charities of Greater Portland. This is a big list of people that you’re helping from a vision standpoint. Talk to me a little bit about this.
Dr. Steven: Well we think it’s important, it’s a lot of unmeant need out there in the community. People that really need eye care and just falling through the medical cracks that can’t quite afford eye exams, and they don’t quite qualify for medicaid. That’s where a lot of these different programs fit in.
Some of them are, various specific programs for instance Positive HealthCare only takes care of HIV positive patients, that’s very specific one. Some of them are pretty general, some of these programs for instance Vision USA, which is a national program run by the American Optometric Association requires an application where you state what your income is.
Then they try to match you with the provider in your area of the country that would be willing to see you at no charge.
Dr. Lisa: You are really helping a group that needs something, I mean if you can’t see, you can’t really function very well in your life. Sometimes in order to see you need things that cost money like glasses, even just vision screening.
Dr. Steven: That’s correct, we do the eye exams, and this crosses all ages from children to adults. In fact we also participate in a wonderful program, another program run by the American Optometric Association called InfantSEE. That’s a little bit newer. Vision USA has been around for a while.
I can give you their 1-800 number if you like.
Dr. Lisa: Yeah please do that.
Dr. Steven: You can post it on your website, for people that feel that they cannot afford an eye exam and have no medical insurance. You’re welcome to call the Vision USA program at 1-800-766-4466. Again that’s 1-800-766-4466 or you can go to their website and download an application and fill that out and apply.
We also participate in a program InfantSEE. It’s a very specific program, also run by the American Optometric Association with its own website under InfantSEE and where we see babies or infants from the age six months, to one year at no charge. There’s quite a few providers here in the state of Maine of which all eight doctors at Casco Bay Eye Care participate in.
Dr. Lisa: How can people learn more about the services that you offer, get in touch with your practice.
Dr. Steven: Well we have a pretty detail website at www.cascobayeye.com. That list all the offices, we have five offices here in Greater Portland. We’ve been for quite a long time.
Dr. Lisa: We will also put that information on the Dr. Lisa website, and people can get information, and call you, and they can call your office and find out about some of these reduced cost services that you’ve been talking about.
Dr. Steven: Yes, for some of the ones that are vetted or screened by other organizations. They could call VisionUSA and apply directly. They could call us, and we would give them guidance, yes about to reach an appropriate local organization.
Dr. Lisa: Well thank you, so much for all the work you’re doing, and all the people that you’re working with. As a family physician who deals with a broad variety of age levels I appreciate what you’re doing with the broad variety of age levels and thank you for the giving back that you’re doing to the community.
Dr. Steven: Well you’re welcome, and thanks for having me on today.
Dr. Lisa: As part of the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast each week. We read from my bountiful blog. My bountiful blog as I’ve mentioned before began as a means of exploring how to feed myself physically, and overtime has moved to a place of feeding myself emotionally and spiritually.
Every day as I write about my observations on my bountiful blog. I learn just a little bit more about myself. This week post from the bountiful blog is called Dragon Stick. It’s from August 12, 2011. Other people observations often inform our own. Thus it is important critical even to have astute observational skills.
On a recent beach walk on Mount Desert Island. My dear friend and I spent time casually studying the rocks driftwood and other sea treasures that comprise the artwork of the shore. He pointed out a Dragon stick. I was pleasantly startled. Immensely creative, my friend embraces my whimsical side but rarely reveals his own.
My friend actively engages in conversations about La Bella Luna, and readily appreciates the photos I take of everyday objects that others might not consider classically beautiful. My friend has a fine aesthetic sense, that seldom tips and defensible extrapolations. Thus when he compare to sea worm stick to an ancient imaginary creature I couldn’t help but smile.
We would do well all of us to approach the world with such childlike vision. All too frequently we lose our sense of wonder as our existence becomes crowded by the cares of the adult world. It is however, at this sense of wonder that enables us to realize our good fortune and living with this world at this time.
It is the sense of wonder that allows us to experience joy over small things. It is the sense of wonder that makes our time on this planet interesting and beautiful and grippingly real. It is this sense of wonder that when shared transformed a sea worm stick into a treasure, and the mere existence into a life. Read this blog post, another blog post on bountiful-blog.com.
This week on the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast. We discuss the theme of Vision from a variety of different standpoints. We talked about physical vision and the foods that one can eat and attempting to keep one’s vision strong and healthy. We talked about the vision required to have a healthy life and the importance of eating a plant base diet and exercising regularly and reaching back into the archives of medical wellness.
Doing what our forefathers perhaps did, in order to keep ourselves healthy in the present day. We also spoke with an architect and address the theme of vision from the standpoint of space and light, and surrounding ourselves with things that nurture us. We finished with our Give Back segment describing the importance of Vision and how one might find help if one is unable to see.
We hope that you have been helped along in your process of maintaining vision, we hope that we are furthering the vision of health and wellness in this world, and we thank you so much for joining us here on the Dr. Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast. Visit our website at doctorlisa.org to listen to our mp3s on a regular basis, to explore many thoughts on health and wellness, or to find a link where you can subscribe to our podcast.
If you wish you can also send us an e-mail, and get on our e-mail list or be a part of our Facebook page at Dr. Lisa. Thank you so much for joining us. May you have a bountiful life.
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The Doctor Lisa Radio Hour and Podcast is recorded in Downtown Portland at the offices of Maine Magazine on 75 Market Street. It is produced by Kevin Thomas and Dr. Lisa Belisle. Editorial content produced by Chris Kast and Genevieve Morgan. Audio production and original music by John McCain.
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